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Post by Venomeye on Apr 21, 2007 12:31:22 GMT -5
Being zombified is okay but don't get yourself brainwashed. I hope to see them in person too... I mean if I did go I would, but I meant like talk to them. I would just freeze up and die.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 21, 2007 12:55:05 GMT -5
That's the way I got when I first met the conductor of our local Symphony orchestra. Now, I'm on a first-name basis with him and his wife. I'll see them in like, the grocery store, and I can just walk up and talk to them. Just make sure you don't drool on them when you're meeting them. That goes over really bad!
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 21, 2007 13:36:49 GMT -5
I'll be sure not to drool. That WOULD go over bad. I would have a guitar over my head. Probably not.
I can see how progressive meetings can ease the notion to interact, but in this case I don't think I'll be seeing them very often. This is happening somewhere June-July (not sure) so I don't have anything to worry about right now. Except seeing something big and scary out my window.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 21, 2007 13:47:17 GMT -5
I actually have music to recommend!!
Pink Floyd! Yes! I love Pink Floyd. One of the few bands I actually desperately want to own all their albums. I'm listening to "The Final Cut" right now. Amazing band. The music and the lyrics are just incredible. Don't blow them off just because they're still popular. They're still popular for a reason!
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 21, 2007 14:36:42 GMT -5
All right more music to listen to! *goes off to find them* Of course I've heard of them, they were on every kid's shirt when at the school I attended. It's sad that I never have heard their music before... I am a very sad person.
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 22, 2007 2:33:52 GMT -5
I'm getting backlogged here too. XD
Oh, Venom, since you said you liked metal, have you ever heard of Nightwish? They do this amazing symphonic metal thing. Now, granted, sometimes the first singer's voice gets a little overly formal, and I don't know if they've even found a new one yet, but I love them. They're my preferred WoW music, and fun to listen to in general.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 22, 2007 4:18:15 GMT -5
Wow, how harmonic, I love it!
You know.... I always find it weird that when I hear a song, it always prints out a certain series of images/patterns in my mind, and it's always the same one for each different song. Does it happen the same to everyone? I've always wondered about that. You can't really re-imagine the image mapping on your own, but only when that certain piece is playing.
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 22, 2007 13:26:28 GMT -5
Venomeye, it sounds like you might actually have a mild case of synesthesia, a strange phenomena where senses get crossed over into one another. Seeing sounds is the most common form, though sometimes taste, touch, and smell can get equally entangled. No wonder you get distracted by music!
I do get some mental images, but they're never as consistent as you describe. I do get strong accociations, though. For example, I'll listen to music when I'm reading webcomics, and usually whatever I'm listening to when I read that particular comic for the first time will always remind me of that comic when I listen to it. For example, the band Barrage is accociated with Wapsi Square, and the song "Gekkouka" by Janne da Arc is accociated with White Noise. Then sometimes I'll listen to the same band for two comics, and I get a weird crossover in my head when it comes up. That happed with Nightwish and the comics Crowfeathers and Sugarbits. Now THAT'S a weird mental image.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 22, 2007 16:06:03 GMT -5
Wow. I don't recall that I've actually experienced that phenomenon. Interesting.
One of my music history profs had a weird "psychosis". ((That's what I called it, anyway.)) When he was in college, he would listen to music while doing the dishes. One night, he dropped a wineglass and broke it during some Beethoven symphony. Now, whenever he hears that symphony, he subconsciously hears glass breaking at that exact point. Weird.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 22, 2007 16:07:49 GMT -5
Wow.... you won't beleive how happy I am to hear that, thank you so very much!! For years I couldn't figure it out, the entire thing is always just one string of patterns and pictures. Thing is though,most of the time the images aren't fully clear enough to really bring whatever it is into focus or some kind of recognition. Sometimes there's a "theme" attached to it as well, like for example: different weather, mechanical, location, time frames, and even a single color. I could go on about all the weird stuff... *headache*. Now I'm totally wondering what's it like to not... experience that. It also applies to almost everything I hear. I'm really happy to know this now... so thanks again.
I know what you're talking about, events happening while listening to certain music can always remind you of it, if the event was significant enough. Doesn't even have to be music, could be anything coresponding to anything.
I wonder what song you'll associate 25 Cent Hero with.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 22, 2007 17:32:43 GMT -5
*starts singing* I'm holding out for a hero!
Whoops!! Wrong gender!
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 22, 2007 19:25:03 GMT -5
I've been trying to figure out a good theme song for 25CH, but I've had no luck yet. >.< Nightwish's "Moondance" is currently the leading candidate, but I still don't think I've found the right song, really.
I'm glad that I was able to help you in some way. Synthesthetes, as people like you are called, usually do have images to every single sound, even words. I remember on the Discovery channel they featured this woman who painted what she saw in sounds. I particularly remember her painting for the word "Saturday", which was this crazy black-and-white checkerboard. I also found an interview with a Synthesthete in Nickelodeon magazine, of all places. He mentioned that each instrument was a different image, his favorite being a purple squiggle of light for the saxophone. And they asked him what his least favorite sound to "see" was, and he said it was the french horn, which he saw as a sheet of school-bus-yellow construction paper. XD "I love the sound of the french horn," he said, "but I hate the color."
Wow, that was a diversion.
But since we're on the subject, what's your favorite instrument to "see"?
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 22, 2007 20:20:02 GMT -5
That's interesting, and interesting you asked. It would be an electric guitar. It produces a directional oscilloscope usually in the "feel" of the general motion or progression of the current rift, sometimes it's grey or green, and it's movements depend on the the pace sometimes. Other times it's a blurry left/right field of grey and black blurred out shapes but the middle field is empty, pouring down like a waterfall. Depends on the song, it can change. How I feel about the song or how I percieve the band/type of music changes how it plays too. When there's "cookie monster" growls for the singing it produces a steady spikey wave, but it's thick. Another thing is that all the songs progress from left-right, never the otherway around. It doesn't exactly connect together/match up but that's how it feels. Also certain songs can apply different settings... like the song "The closest thing to closure" brings out a snow blizzard type of idea, sort of like a gray mountain, and streaks of white blending in with everything, but it isn't exactly covering anything. Drums are usually a string of dot like patterns depending on how fast they're going, and how high their beat is, so it can curve. Sometimes its really subtle and just looks like an impression with a single shaded side to give the illusion of a dot. This is all so weird talking about it, first time I've ever even mentioned it! I hope that doesn't sound like a bunch of random gibberish. Edit(2): Also an example of what I "see" at the beginning of "My Heartstrings Come Undone" It's always moving, and it's not exactly a solid image like that, even though it's not exactly right, it's the best I can re-create. It may sort of look like some dizzy thing that looks like something you see on some kind of substance, but it's mostly all just a subtle glow. It doesn't swirl around or anything crazy, or move in any sort of goofy way. It's all graceful and sort of passionate, even though it sounds silly, best I can describe it. It all flows naturally.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 22, 2007 21:27:49 GMT -5
Wow! I'm kind of jealous, now. All these amazing images triggered by sound. I think I understand what you're saying, Venom. It's not something I've ever experienced before.
Thinking back on it, I wonder if one of the original designers of Disney's Fantasia may have been a Synthesthete. The first piece starts out simply enough, with pictures of the orchestra. Then, it departs into abstract images, seemingly inspired by the dominant instruments. It makes me wonder...
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 23, 2007 0:24:49 GMT -5
You know, that picture looks a little like the iTunes visualizations--except it sounds like your images are much more complex.
I'm not sure as to whether the person responsible for Toccata and Fuge's animation sequence was a synthesthete or not. They probably actually weren't, though. I read quite a bit about animation in general for a history class once, and on Fantasia in particular, since it's my favorite Disney film. Anyway, Fantasia came out at the tail end of a movement in animation called "absolute animation" which strived for a moving version of the abstract and cubist paintings of the time. In fact, in the introduction to the song, the term is alluded to when the conductor (sorry, can't spell his name) calles the piece "absolute music." So, while it is possible for the designer to be a sythesthete, it is more likely that they were simply responding to the movement. Then again, maybe they were, and the movement was the only reason it got OK'd...
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