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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 23, 2007 7:45:22 GMT -5
Ahh. I didn't know this. Actually, someone else narrated Fantasia. Stokowski only spoke in that little sequence where Mickey Mouse came up to the podium. It would be interesting to find out who designed that sequence, and what exactly they were thinking. I still haven't seen Fantasia 2000. I should just go buy it. What's interesting is that the only piece Fantasia ever ruined for me was Dukais' "Sorceror's Apprentice." I just can't listen to it anymore. EDIT: Just popped over to Amazon to look at Fantasia 2000. I didn't know "Sorceror's Apprentice" was the piece they carried over. I was also disappointed to learn they'd started a sequence for "Ride of the Walkyries" and abandoned it.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 23, 2007 9:52:17 GMT -5
I loved Fantasia, though I haven't seen it in YEARS. Now it's making me feel really nostalgic, and I want to see it again, but I don't have it here, how awful! *goes into a corner and dies*. Ahh well.
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 23, 2007 13:53:48 GMT -5
You know, all the fantasia animation sequences besides Toccatta and Fugue have water in them, and Beethoven and Stravinsky were the only composers to have pieces representing them in both films (I'm not counting Sorcerer's Apprentice because it's an outright repeat). Also, since the original fantasia was the first film recorded in sterophonic sound, they had to lug their own equipment with them everywhere the film went during its initial run in 1940, and as a result only hit 14 cities on a tour. You know what I really want? The Fantasia Anthology. It's a monster set with both films and an absurd number of bonus features. Yeah, it is kind of disappointed that "Socerer's Apprentice" was the repeat segment, though since it's the most famous I can see why. It's also one of the shorter ones in the first film, so it fits right in with the severely abbreviated segments in the second one. >.< I love the second one, I do; the animation is fabulous and there's some truly excellent pieces in there, but I'm depressed they felt the need to shorten stuff so much due to audience's shortening attention spans.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 23, 2007 13:57:31 GMT -5
I was checking out the anthology. I haven't found one for less than $ 70. That's a bit steep for me.
That's awesome about the stereophony! I have a CD made of an older record, and they just shrunk the record booklet down to CD case size, so there's all these little references to "Glorious Stereophonic Sound!" It's kind of funny.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 23, 2007 19:59:35 GMT -5
I do have the original Fantasia on TAPE.... somewhere. You know how old that thing is? It's going to run horribly even if I do find it.
That does sound funny, though I don't even know hwat "stereophonic" means.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 23, 2007 22:00:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I've got it too. I have to be real careful with the VCR because the previous occupant refinished a piano in the living room, so I have a major problem with dust.
Stereophonic or "stereo" means the sound comes in two channels, usually left and right. Certain tones and harmonics sound better on the right channel. Mono is always just "left" sounds. Some of the depth is lost.
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 24, 2007 0:27:21 GMT -5
A few years ago, I'd been listening to the CD of Fantasia, with the original left and right sound mix, and then watched it on tape. No matter how much VHS claims to have stereo, it just doesn't really have it.
Stereo can also be used to emulate the positions of the performers in the recording studio, i.e., in some of my CDs the drummer is primarily in the right chanel but the guitar is on the left, and vice versa. And sometimes they'll go crazy with it, and make sounds travel from one side to the other and back again. In fact, they made sounds travel in Fantasia a LOT, which is remarkable considering the technology was in its infancy at that point.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 24, 2007 9:23:07 GMT -5
*slaps head* Durrrrrrrr what I was thinking.. I guess it was the "phonic" part confusing me.
I was watching the taped version last night. It was so late that I feel alseep during the part about the multi colored pegasi (or pegasuses, I don't know), but it was great to listen to it again. I didn't really notice any channel fluctuations, but I guess when they TV's speakers are 1 foot apart from eachother and you're in the center it's hard to tell.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 24, 2007 11:10:25 GMT -5
Yeah, listening on a standard tv usually dulls the stereo effect. I used to run my TV through my stereo system, but when I moved, my parents gave me their old TV, and I'm happy with the sound as it is.
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 24, 2007 15:15:39 GMT -5
Well, it's also partially because VHS kills stereo. Even if you pump it through a stereo, I've discovered, it just splits the chanels evenly in two, rather than preserving the original programming like CDs and DVDs do. YAY DVDs!
I probably wouldn't be happy with it, but then again, I'm an audiophile. However, I've discovered Cyber Acoustics makes a nice little 2 speak and 1 subwoofer set that's only about $50, and it sounds really nice for its size. That's what I have hooked up to my entertainment system (that is, my computer). I highly reccomend them if you'd like a cheap stereo system that's actually worth your money. Sure, it's no surround sound, but it's definitely an improvement over any internal speaker.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 24, 2007 15:52:37 GMT -5
You could get surround sound for 80 bucks!! 5.1 that is. I have what you have, two speakers and a subwoofer. On my old P4 computer I could emulate surround sound by plugging in two sets of speakers at once, one set made for the "pre-built" slot, and two indivual speakers in a couple of other input slots. I would put them behind me and it was great. I can no longer do that though.... *sniff*, I miss that. Only one input works.
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Post by Poofiemus on Apr 24, 2007 18:50:24 GMT -5
I only have one place to plug in the speakers to begin with, and that's the headphones slot. XD And I don't have room for surround, either, which is depressing. Very depressing.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 24, 2007 18:58:38 GMT -5
Radio Shack makes a y-adapter for headphones that allows you to plug two sets into one jack. I'm not sure how much they are, but they can't be that expensive.
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Post by Venomeye on Apr 24, 2007 19:49:11 GMT -5
...really? I'll be sure to pick one up next time I go, thanks for the tipoff. Oh I can't wait, because all I really need to do is split the audio signal up, because it can travel through many lines at once, though it's all being used up by a single line that can't share. I'd have to increase the volume though to compensate for the weaker signal.
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Post by Pipe Organ Wolf on Apr 24, 2007 20:44:12 GMT -5
I haven't had a problem with those adapters weakening the signal. I mean, it does slightly, but I don't need to compensate a whole lot.
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